(...) Theaetetus
     Part
6001 Text |             music?~THEAETETUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: Then, if we argue from
6002 Text |          nonsense?~THEAETETUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: And there might be given
6003 Text |                THEAETETUS: We must not.~SOCRATES: Well, and what is the meaning
6004 Text |              THEAETETUS: What are they?~SOCRATES: In the first place, the
6005 Text |                said to explain himself.~SOCRATES: And every one who is not
6006 Text |            knowledge.~THEAETETUS: True.~SOCRATES: Let us not, therefore,
6007 Text |             THEAETETUS: As for example, Socrates...?~SOCRATES: As, for example,
6008 Text |               for example, Socrates...?~SOCRATES: As, for example, when Hesiod
6009 Text |                  THEAETETUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And our opponent will probably
6010 Text |              composed.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: In the same general way,
6011 Text |                 not agree in that view, Socrates?~SOCRATES: If you do, my
6012 Text |                 in that view, Socrates?~SOCRATES: If you do, my friend; but
6013 Text |                  THEAETETUS: Precisely.~SOCRATES: Well, and do you conceive
6014 Text |              THEAETETUS: Assuredly not.~SOCRATES: And do you not remember
6015 Text |                 misspelt the syllables?~SOCRATES: Yes.~THEAETETUS: To be
6016 Text |               condition have knowledge.~SOCRATES: When a person at the time
6017 Text |                 yet attained knowledge.~SOCRATES: And in like manner be may
6018 Text |               name?~THEAETETUS: He may.~SOCRATES: And in that case, when
6019 Text |           opinion?~THEAETETUS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: But although we admit that
6020 Text |             knowledge?~THEAETETUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And yet he will have explanation,
6021 Text |          explanation.~THEAETETUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then, my friend, there
6022 Text |           THEAETETUS: It would seem so.~SOCRATES: And what we fancied to
6023 Text |                is the third definition?~SOCRATES: There is, further, the
6024 Text |           example of such a definition?~SOCRATES: As, for example, in the
6025 Text |                  THEAETETUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Understand why:—the reason
6026 Text |                 in my judgment correct.~SOCRATES: But he, who having right
6027 Text |                what we are maintaining.~SOCRATES: Nevertheless, Theaetetus,
6028 Text |           THEAETETUS: What do you mean?~SOCRATES: I will endeavour to explain:
6029 Text |          opinion only.~THEAETETUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: The definition was assumed
6030 Text |           difference.~THEAETETUS: True.~SOCRATES: But when I had only opinion,
6031 Text |              THEAETETUS: I suppose not.~SOCRATES: Then I must have conceived
6032 Text |              another.~THEAETETUS: True.~SOCRATES: Tell me, now—How in that
6033 Text |               THEAETETUS: How could it?~SOCRATES: Or if I had further conceived
6034 Text |              THEAETETUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: Surely I can have no conception
6035 Text |                  THEAETETUS: Most true.~SOCRATES: Then right opinion implies
6036 Text |       differences?~THEAETETUS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: What, then, shall we say
6037 Text |         ridiculous.~THEAETETUS: How so?~SOCRATES: We are supposed to acquire
6038 Text |                 you asked the question?~SOCRATES: If, my boy, the argument,
6039 Text |            knowledge.~THEAETETUS: True.~SOCRATES: And so, when the question
6040 Text |                  That seems to be true.~SOCRATES: But how utterly foolish,
6041 Text |              THEAETETUS: I suppose not.~SOCRATES: And are you still in labour
6042 Text |                  THEAETETUS: I am sure, Socrates, that you have elicited
6043 Text |               more than ever was in me.~SOCRATES: And does not my art show
6044 Text |                  THEAETETUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: But if, Theaetetus, you


Timaeus
     Part
6045 Intro|                 philosopher, and not of Socrates. And this is required by
6046 Intro|              was expressly renounced by Socrates in the Phaedo. Nor does
6047 Intro|              modern science.~Section 1.~Socrates begins the Timaeus with
6048 Intro|                that you would repeat to Socrates.’ ‘I will, if Timaeus approves.’ ‘
6049 Intro|                I approve.’ Listen then, Socrates, to a tale of Solon’s, who,
6050 Intro|              ocean.’~Such was the tale, Socrates, which Critias heard from
6051 Intro|                mind; and I am prepared, Socrates, to rehearse to you the
6052 Intro|           citizenship. ‘I see,’ replied Socrates, ‘that I shall be well entertained;
6053 Intro|              may attain but no further.~SOCRATES: Excellent, Timaeus, I like
6054 Intro|               contemporary of Plato and Socrates was incapable of resisting
6055 Intro|                own self-consciousness.’ Socrates had already spoken of God
6056 Intro|                In the generation before Socrates, Anaxagoras had brought
6057 Intro|                 who became disciples of Socrates. We have hardly any other
6058 Intro|                with the final causes of Socrates himself. There is no intelligible
6059 Intro|       philosophy and in the teaching of Socrates and of the Megarians respectively;
6060 Intro| self-contradiction. He had learned from Socrates that vice is ignorance,
6061 Text |                PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Critias, Timaeus, Hermocrates.~
6062 Text |          Critias, Timaeus, Hermocrates.~SOCRATES: One, two, three; but where,
6063 Text |                  He has been taken ill, Socrates; for he would not willingly
6064 Text |             absent from this gathering.~SOCRATES: Then, if he is not coming,
6065 Text |                return your hospitality.~SOCRATES: Do you remember what were
6066 Text |           firmly fixed in our memories?~SOCRATES: To be sure I will: the
6067 Text |             most perfect.~TIMAEUS: Yes, Socrates; and what you said of it
6068 Text |              was very much to our mind.~SOCRATES: Did we not begin by separating
6069 Text |                the State?~TIMAEUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And when we had given to
6070 Text |               battle.~TIMAEUS: Exactly.~SOCRATES: We said, if I am not mistaken,
6071 Text |            enemies.~TIMAEUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And what did we say of
6072 Text |               them?~TIMAEUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And being thus trained
6073 Text |            TIMAEUS: That was also said.~SOCRATES: Neither did we forget the
6074 Text |                  again, was as you say.~SOCRATES: And what about the procreation
6075 Text |                to remember, as you say.~SOCRATES: And do you also remember
6076 Text |               lot?~TIMAEUS: I remember.~SOCRATES: And you remember how we
6077 Text |                 came up?~TIMAEUS: True.~SOCRATES: Then have I now given you
6078 Text |              omitted?~TIMAEUS: Nothing, Socrates; it was just as you have
6079 Text |              was just as you have said.~SOCRATES: I should like, before proceeding
6080 Text |                HERMOCRATES: And we too, Socrates, as Timaeus says, will not
6081 Text |                that you would repeat to Socrates, so that he may help us
6082 Text |          approve.~CRITIAS: Then listen, Socrates, to a tale which, though
6083 Text |               this her day of festival.~SOCRATES: Very good. And what is
6084 Text |                I have told you briefly, Socrates, what the aged Critias heard
6085 Text |              something to say. And now, Socrates, to make an end of my preface,
6086 Text |                 upon us. Consider then, Socrates, if this narrative is suited
6087 Text |                 for some other instead.~SOCRATES: And what other, Critias,
6088 Text |              proceed to explain to you, Socrates, the order in which we have
6089 Text |          Athenians and fellow-citizens.~SOCRATES: I see that I shall receive
6090 Text |                 Gods.~TIMAEUS: All men, Socrates, who have any degree of
6091 Text |               truth to belief. If then, Socrates, amid the many opinions
6092 Text |                 and enquire no further.~SOCRATES: Excellent, Timaeus; and