(...) Cratylus
     Part
 501 Text |               little trouble and oblige Socrates, and me too, who certainly
 502 Text |        certainly have a claim upon you.~SOCRATES: I am by no means positive,
 503 Text |                CRATYLUS: You are right, Socrates, in saying that I have made
 504 Text |              much to my mind.’~And you, Socrates, appear to me to be an oracle,
 505 Text |              unconsciously to yourself.~SOCRATES: Excellent Cratylus, I have
 506 Text |     sufficiently proven?~CRATYLUS: Yes, Socrates, what you say, as I am disposed
 507 Text |                to think, is quite true.~SOCRATES: Names, then, are given
 508 Text |          instruct?~CRATYLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And naming is an art, and
 509 Text |              artificers?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And who are they?~CRATYLUS:
 510 Text |                whom you spoke at first.~SOCRATES: And does this art grow
 511 Text |              some worse?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: The better painters execute
 512 Text |             them worse.~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: And among legislators,
 513 Text |                I do not agree with you.~SOCRATES: Then you do not think that
 514 Text |            worse?~CRATYLUS: No, indeed.~SOCRATES: Or that one name is better
 515 Text |                CRATYLUS: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: Then all names are rightly
 516 Text |               if they are names at all.~SOCRATES: Well, what do you say to
 517 Text |                which corresponds to it.~SOCRATES: And if a man were to call
 518 Text |             CRATYLUS: What do you mean?~SOCRATES: Are you maintaining that
 519 Text |                all ages.~CRATYLUS: Why, Socrates, how can a man say that
 520 Text |                 the thing which is not?~SOCRATES: Your argument, friend,
 521 Text |                Neither spoken nor said.~SOCRATES: Nor uttered nor addressed?
 522 Text |                CRATYLUS: In my opinion, Socrates, the speaker would only
 523 Text |               only be talking nonsense.~SOCRATES: Well, but that will be
 524 Text |              hammering at a brazen pot.~SOCRATES: But let us see, Cratylus,
 525 Text |              named?~CRATYLUS: I should.~SOCRATES: And would you further acknowledge
 526 Text |             thing?~CRATYLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And you would say that
 527 Text |             another way?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: I believe you may be right,
 528 Text |          imitation.~CRATYLUS: They are.~SOCRATES: First look at the matter
 529 Text |                on?~CRATYLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And conversely you may
 530 Text |               man?~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And are both modes of assigning
 531 Text |               CRATYLUS: Only the first.~SOCRATES: That is to say, the mode
 532 Text |              CRATYLUS: That is my view.~SOCRATES: Now then, as I am desirous
 533 Text |             CRATYLUS: That may be true, Socrates, in the case of pictures;
 534 Text |              they must be always right.~SOCRATES: Why, what is the difference?
 535 Text |             sight.~CRATYLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And may I not go to him
 536 Text |              would fain agree with you, Socrates; and therefore I say, Granted.~
 537 Text |               therefore I say, Granted.~SOCRATES: That is very good of you,
 538 Text |              what you say is very true.~SOCRATES: And further, primitive
 539 Text |               not?~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: And he who gives all gives
 540 Text |                good one.~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: In like manner, he who
 541 Text |                 CRATYLUS: That is true.~SOCRATES: Then the artist of names
 542 Text |              may be bad?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And this artist of names
 543 Text |              legislator?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then like other artists
 544 Text |              good?~CRATYLUS: Very true, Socrates; but the case of language,
 545 Text |              becomes other than a name.~SOCRATES: But I doubt whether your
 546 Text |             Cratylus.~CRATYLUS: How so?~SOCRATES: I believe that what you
 547 Text |              there were two Cratyluses.~SOCRATES: Then you see, my friend,
 548 Text |        represent?~CRATYLUS: Yes, I see.~SOCRATES: But then how ridiculous
 549 Text |        realities.~CRATYLUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Then fear not, but have
 550 Text |              CRATYLUS: Yes, I remember.~SOCRATES: Good; and when the general
 551 Text |          CRATYLUS: I quite acknowledge, Socrates, what you say to be very
 552 Text |              say to be very reasonable.~SOCRATES: Then as we are agreed thus
 553 Text |                 letters.~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the proper letters
 554 Text |              the things?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Enough then of names which
 555 Text |                  There would be no use, Socrates, in my quarrelling with
 556 Text |                 given is a name at all.~SOCRATES: Do you admit a name to
 557 Text |             thing?~CRATYLUS: Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: But do you not allow that
 558 Text |           derived?~CRATYLUS: Yes, I do.~SOCRATES: Then if you admit that
 559 Text |             Representation by likeness, Socrates, is infinitely better than
 560 Text |      representation by any chance sign.~SOCRATES: Very good: but if the name
 561 Text |         composed?~CRATYLUS: Impossible.~SOCRATES: No more could names ever
 562 Text |                 letters?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Let me now invite you to
 563 Text |                say that you were right.~SOCRATES: And that lamda was expressive
 564 Text |             There again you were right.~SOCRATES: And yet, as you are aware,
 565 Text |         skleroter.~CRATYLUS: Very true.~SOCRATES: But are the letters rho
 566 Text |             significance to both of us.~SOCRATES: In as far as they are like,
 567 Text |                as far as they are like.~SOCRATES: Are they altogether alike?~
 568 Text |           purpose of expressing motion.~SOCRATES: And what do you say of
 569 Text |              lamda is wrongly inserted, Socrates, and should be altered into
 570 Text |      subtracting letters upon occasion.~SOCRATES: Good. But still the word
 571 Text |          explanation of that is custom.~SOCRATES: And what is custom but
 572 Text |              are saying?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: And if when I speak you
 573 Text |               me to you?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: This indication of my meaning
 574 Text |             CRATYLUS: The use of names, Socrates, as I should imagine, is
 575 Text |            which are expressed by them.~SOCRATES: I suppose you mean to say,
 576 Text |               is precisely what I mean.~SOCRATES: But let us consider what
 577 Text |                  there can be no other.~SOCRATES: But do you believe that
 578 Text |             same nature as instruction.~SOCRATES: Well, but do you not see,
 579 Text |             deceived?~CRATYLUS: How so?~SOCRATES: Why clearly he who first
 580 Text |                 he not?~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: And if his conception was
 581 Text |         deceived by him?~CRATYLUS: But, Socrates, am I not right in thinking
 582 Text |           common character and purpose?~SOCRATES: But that, friend Cratylus,
 583 Text |          meaning, and the true meaning.~SOCRATES: Let us revert to episteme (
 584 Text |               of motion.~CRATYLUS: Yes, Socrates, but observe; the greater
 585 Text |          greater number express motion.~SOCRATES: What of that, Cratylus?
 586 Text |                 that is not reasonable.~SOCRATES: Certainly not. But let
 587 Text |       legislator?~CRATYLUS: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Tell me, then, did the
 588 Text |         CRATYLUS: They must have known, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Why, yes, friend
 589 Text |              must have known, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Why, yes, friend Cratylus,
 590 Text |             CRATYLUS: I should say not.~SOCRATES: Let us return to the point
 591 Text |                opinion?~CRATYLUS: I am.~SOCRATES: And would you say that
 592 Text |              named?~CRATYLUS: I should.~SOCRATES: But how could he have learned
 593 Text |              good deal in what you say, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But if things
 594 Text |                 what you say, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But if things are only
 595 Text |              them?~CRATYLUS: I believe, Socrates, the true account of the
 596 Text |           necessarily their true names.~SOCRATES: Then how came the giver
 597 Text |                 not to be names at all.~SOCRATES: And which, then, did he
 598 Text |          CRATYLUS: No; not in that way, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But if this is
 599 Text |              not in that way, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But if this is a battle
 600 Text |              things.~CRATYLUS: I agree.~SOCRATES: But if that is true, Cratylus,
 601 Text |               names?~CRATYLUS: Clearly.~SOCRATES: But how would you expect
 602 Text |               saying is, I think, true.~SOCRATES: Well, but reflect; have
 603 Text |               they name?~CRATYLUS: Yes.~SOCRATES: Let us suppose that to
 604 Text |                must learn of the truth.~SOCRATES: How real existence is to
 605 Text |          themselves.~CRATYLUS: Clearly, Socrates.~SOCRATES: There is another
 606 Text |            CRATYLUS: Clearly, Socrates.~SOCRATES: There is another point.
 607 Text |         existence?~CRATYLUS: Certainly, Socrates, I think so.~SOCRATES: Then
 608 Text |        Certainly, Socrates, I think so.~SOCRATES: Then let us seek the true
 609 Text |         beautiful.~CRATYLUS: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And can we rightly speak
 610 Text |                  CRATYLUS: Undoubtedly.~SOCRATES: Then how can that be a
 611 Text |                  Certainly they cannot.~SOCRATES: Nor yet can they be known
 612 Text |               no state.~CRATYLUS: True.~SOCRATES: Nor can we reasonably say,
 613 Text |                though I can assure you, Socrates, that I have been considering
 614 Text |                 incline to Heracleitus.~SOCRATES: Then, another day, my friend,
 615 Text |               way.~CRATYLUS: Very good, Socrates; I hope, however, that you


Critias
     Part
 616 Intro|               gods whom we do not know. Socrates readily grants his request,
 617 Intro|                 innocent declaration of Socrates, that the truth of the story
 618 Intro|              have put into the mouth of Socrates a panegyric on him (Tim.).
 619 Intro|           subject of accusation against Socrates. We can only infer that
 620 Text |          Critias, Hermocrates, Timaeus, Socrates.~TIMAEUS: How thankful I
 621 Text |             TIMAEUS: How thankful I am, Socrates, that I have arrived at
 622 Text |                at the same time to beg, Socrates, that I may have not less,
 623 Text |                 will be ready to grant.~SOCRATES: Certainly, Critias, we
 624 Text |               HERMOCRATES: The warning, Socrates, which you have addressed


Crito
     Part
 625 Intro|                exhibit the character of Socrates in one light only, not as
 626 Intro|                the state...~The days of Socrates are drawing to a close;
 627 Intro|              Thessaly and other places.~Socrates is afraid that Crito is
 628 Intro|            because the circumstances of Socrates are altered? Crito admits
 629 Intro|           unable or unwilling to reply.~Socrates proceeds:—Suppose the Laws
 630 Intro|             murmuring in his ears.~That Socrates was not a good citizen was
 631 Intro|                 to make the proposal to Socrates, we seem to recognize the
 632 Intro|               Works) is of opinion that Socrates ‘did well to die,’ but not
 633 Intro|              difficulty in arguing that Socrates should have lived and preferred
 634 Intro|                 is still the paradox of Socrates in his last hours. He must
 635 Intro|               beginning by the dream of Socrates and the parody of Homer.
 636 Text |                PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Crito.~SCENE: The Prison
 637 Text |             Crito.~SCENE: The Prison of Socrates.~SOCRATES: Why have you
 638 Text |                 The Prison of Socrates.~SOCRATES: Why have you come at this
 639 Text |                  CRITO: Yes, certainly.~SOCRATES: What is the exact time?~
 640 Text |            CRITO: The dawn is breaking.~SOCRATES: I wonder that the keeper
 641 Text |                me because I often come, Socrates; moreover. I have done him
 642 Text |               have done him a kindness.~SOCRATES: And are you only just arrived?~
 643 Text |               No, I came some time ago.~SOCRATES: Then why did you sit and
 644 Text |           should not have liked myself, Socrates, to be in such great trouble
 645 Text |                 you bear this calamity.~SOCRATES: Why, Crito, when a man
 646 Text |             prevent them from repining.~SOCRATES: That is true. But you have
 647 Text |               and saddest of all to me.~SOCRATES: What? Has the ship come
 648 Text |                and therefore to-morrow, Socrates, will be the last day of
 649 Text |              the last day of your life.~SOCRATES: Very well, Crito; if such
 650 Text |             CRITO: Why do you think so?~SOCRATES: I will tell you. I am to
 651 Text |               what the authorities say.~SOCRATES: But I do not think that
 652 Text |               the nature of the vision?~SOCRATES: There appeared to me the
 653 Text |                called to me and said: O Socrates,~‘The third day hence to
 654 Text |                  What a singular dream, Socrates!~SOCRATES: There can be
 655 Text |               singular dream, Socrates!~SOCRATES: There can be no doubt about
 656 Text |              clear. But, oh! my beloved Socrates, let me entreat you once
 657 Text |           escape, and that you refused.~SOCRATES: But why, my dear Crito,
 658 Text |           occurred.~CRITO: But you see, Socrates, that the opinion of the
 659 Text |                lost their good opinion.~SOCRATES: I only wish it were so,
 660 Text |                  but please to tell me, Socrates, whether you are not acting
 661 Text |                  then, and do as I say.~SOCRATES: Yes, Crito, that is one
 662 Text |               you are at all justified, Socrates, in betraying your own life
 663 Text |             difficulty at all. See now, Socrates, how sad and discreditable
 664 Text |                I beseech you therefore, Socrates, be persuaded by me, and
 665 Text |                 by me, and do as I say.~SOCRATES: Dear Crito, your zeal is
 666 Text |                 this?~CRITO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: The good are to be regarded,
 667 Text |                not the bad?~CRITO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the opinions of the
 668 Text |                 evil?~CRITO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And what was said about
 669 Text |                 CRITO: Of one man only.~SOCRATES: And he ought to fear the
 670 Text |                many?~CRITO: Clearly so.~SOCRATES: And he ought to act and
 671 Text |              put together?~CRITO: True.~SOCRATES: And if he disobeys and
 672 Text |               CRITO: Certainly he will.~SOCRATES: And what will the evil
 673 Text |               is destroyed by the evil.~SOCRATES: Very good; and is not this
 674 Text |              CRITO: Certainly there is, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Take a parallel
 675 Text |           Certainly there is, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Take a parallel instance:—
 676 Text |                is—the body?~CRITO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Could we live, having an
 677 Text |             body?~CRITO: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: And will life be worth
 678 Text |             body?~CRITO: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: More honourable than the
 679 Text |              the body?~CRITO: Far more.~SOCRATES: Then, my friend, we must
 680 Text |               can kill us.’~CRITO: Yes, Socrates; that will clearly be the
 681 Text |             will clearly be the answer.~SOCRATES: And it is true; but still
 682 Text |             that also remains unshaken.~SOCRATES: And a good life is equivalent
 683 Text |              also?~CRITO: Yes, it does.~SOCRATES: From these premisses I
 684 Text |               think that you are right, Socrates; how then shall we proceed?~
 685 Text |              how then shall we proceed?~SOCRATES: Let us consider the matter
 686 Text |               answer me.~CRITO: I will.~SOCRATES: Are we to say that we are
 687 Text |              say so or not?~CRITO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then we must do no wrong?~
 688 Text |            wrong?~CRITO: Certainly not.~SOCRATES: Nor when injured injure
 689 Text |               Rep.)~CRITO: Clearly not.~SOCRATES: Again, Crito, may we do
 690 Text |                evil?~CRITO: Surely not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And what of doing
 691 Text |            CRITO: Surely not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And what of doing evil
 692 Text |                or not?~CRITO: Not just.~SOCRATES: For doing evil to another
 693 Text |         injuring him?~CRITO: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then we ought not to retaliate
 694 Text |               have not changed my mind.~SOCRATES: Then I will go on to the
 695 Text |                do what he thinks right.~SOCRATES: But if this is true, what
 696 Text |              say?~CRITO: I cannot tell, Socrates, for I do not know.~SOCRATES:
 697 Text |            Socrates, for I do not know.~SOCRATES: Then consider the matter
 698 Text |               interrogate me: ‘Tell us, Socrates,’ they say; ‘what are you
 699 Text |                 that?~CRITO: Very good, Socrates.~SOCRATES: ‘And was that
 700 Text |             CRITO: Very good, Socrates.~SOCRATES: ‘And was that our agreement
 701 Text |            would probably add: ‘Answer, Socrates, instead of opening your
 702 Text |            CRITO: I think that they do.~SOCRATES: Then the laws will say: ‘
 703 Text |               laws will say: ‘Consider, Socrates, if we are speaking truly
 704 Text |                 as we were saying, you, Socrates, will be exposed if you
 705 Text |                 proof,’ they will say, ‘Socrates, that we and the city were
 706 Text |               CRITO: We cannot help it, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Then will they
 707 Text |               cannot help it, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Then will they not say: ‘
 708 Text |                will they not say: ‘You, Socrates, are breaking the covenants
 709 Text |                your agreements. Not so, Socrates, if you will take our advice;
 710 Text |               come to them as an enemy, Socrates, and their government will
 711 Text |                shame, and talk to them, Socrates? And what will you say to
 712 Text |               they will.~‘Listen, then, Socrates, to us who have brought
 713 Text |                  I have nothing to say, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Leave me then,
 714 Text |               nothing to say, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Leave me then, Crito, to


Euthydemus
     Part
 715 Intro|         sustained, the contrast between Socrates and the two Sophists, although
 716 Intro|                 the accustomed irony of Socrates continues to the end...~
 717 Intro|                 continues to the end...~Socrates narrates to Crito a remarkable
 718 Intro|                in the very best manner. Socrates, who is always on the look-out
 719 Intro|               in the midst of which are Socrates, the two brothers, the youth
 720 Intro|                 which you do not know.’~Socrates is afraid that the youth
 721 Intro|                 virtue will follow, and Socrates himself (if the wise men
 722 Intro|     ingenuousness of the youth delights Socrates, who is at once relieved
 723 Intro|             will,’ says Cleinias.~After Socrates has given this specimen
 724 Intro|             storm seems to be gathering Socrates pacifies him with a joke,
 725 Intro|           Ctesippus is unable to reply.~Socrates has already heard of the
 726 Intro|              two Sophists complain that Socrates is ready to answer what
 727 Intro|               word “non-plussed” mean?’ Socrates is informed, in reply, that
 728 Intro|             again has to be pacified by Socrates, who renews the conversation
 729 Intro|                 enquirers, Cleinias and Socrates, are described as wandering
 730 Intro|                 in despair Cleinias and Socrates turn to the ‘Dioscuri’ and
 731 Intro|                  Euthydemus argues that Socrates knows something; and as
 732 Intro|      information about Euthydemus. Even Socrates is incredulous, and indulges
 733 Intro|             napping,’ and is induced by Socrates to confess that ‘he does
 734 Intro|                 the good to be unjust.’ Socrates appeals to his brother Euthydemus;
 735 Intro|              nephew of Heracles than of Socrates. For a nephew is a nephew,
 736 Intro|             Cleinias, who is rebuked by Socrates for laughing at such solemn
 737 Intro|               same as absolute beauty?’ Socrates replies that they are not
 738 Intro|              more amphiboliae, in which Socrates, like Ctesippus, in self-defence
 739 Intro|                panegyrical oration from Socrates:—~First, he praises the
 740 Intro|            their disciples.~Crito tells Socrates that he has heard one of
 741 Intro|                this wisdom,—not sparing Socrates himself for countenancing
 742 Intro|       countenancing such an exhibition. Socrates asks what manner of man
 743 Intro|            great composer of speeches.’ Socrates understands that he is an
 744 Intro|           education are strange beings. Socrates consoles him with the remark
 745 Intro|           satire.~The two discourses of Socrates may be contrasted in several
 746 Intro|           definite conclusion—for while Socrates and the youth are agreed
 747 Intro|           easily intelligible. There is Socrates once more in the character
 748 Intro|              his commentary at the end; Socrates makes a playful allusion
 749 Intro|              youths out of whose mouths Socrates draws his own lessons, and
 750 Intro|             Crito will not believe that Socrates has not improved or perhaps
 751 Intro|              who sees the trap in which Socrates catches Dionysodorus.~The
 752 Intro|              censure the interest which Socrates takes in the exhibition
 753 Intro|                 sons, and the advice of Socrates to him that he should not
 754 Intro|              and Lysis;—the relation of Socrates to the Sophists is still
 755 Intro|                Socratic period in which Socrates is represented as willing
 756 Intro|               at in the Protagoras, for Socrates is no longer discussing
 757 Text |                PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, who is the narrator of
 758 Text |              CRITO: Who was the person, Socrates, with whom you were talking
 759 Text |               were talking: who was he?~SOCRATES: There were two, Crito;
 760 Text |               looks younger than he is.~SOCRATES: He whom you mean, Crito,
 761 Text |                of them are known to me, Socrates; they are a new importation
 762 Text |                is their line of wisdom?~SOCRATES: As to their origin, I believe
 763 Text |                 to any one.~CRITO: But, Socrates, are you not too old? there
 764 Text |                 be reason to fear that.~SOCRATES: Certainly not, Crito; as
 765 Text |              CRITO: I see no objection, Socrates, if you like; but first
 766 Text |             what we are going to learn.~SOCRATES: In less than no time you
 767 Text |                 Euthydemus said: Those, Socrates, are matters which we no
 768 Text |                 The teaching of virtue, Socrates, he replied, is our principal
 769 Text |                  You may take our word, Socrates, for the fact.~Then I think
 770 Text |                why we have come hither, Socrates; and our purpose is not
 771 Text |               best learn it?~Certainly, Socrates, said Dionysodorus; our
 772 Text |               the study of virtue?~Yes, Socrates, I rather think that we
 773 Text |              There can be no objection, Socrates, if the young man is only
 774 Text |                that he will be refuted, Socrates.~While he was speaking to
 775 Text |     Dionysodorus whispered to me: That, Socrates, is just another of the
 776 Text |                all our other questions, Socrates, he replied—inevitable.~
 777 Text |              possessed them?~No indeed, Socrates.~Then, I said, a man who
 778 Text |                you and me—~But I think, Socrates, that wisdom can be taught,
 779 Text |                 to love her?~Certainly, Socrates, he said; I will do my best.~
 780 Text |               virtue.~Tell me, he said, Socrates and the rest of you who
 781 Text |             Dionysodorus said:~Reflect, Socrates; you may have to deny your
 782 Text |                  Ctesippus said: And I, Socrates, am ready to commit myself
 783 Text |               are you such an old fool, Socrates, rejoined Dionysodorus,
 784 Text |                 CRITO: And do you mean, Socrates, that the youngster said
 785 Text |                youngster said all this?~SOCRATES: Are you incredulous, Crito?~
 786 Text |              else to be his instructor.~SOCRATES: Perhaps I may have forgotten,
 787 Text |             CRITO: Ctesippus! nonsense.~SOCRATES: All I know is that I heard
 788 Text |            certain.~CRITO: Yes, indeed, Socrates, by some one a good deal
 789 Text |                 which you were seeking?~SOCRATES: Find! my dear sir, no indeed.
 790 Text |             CRITO: How did that happen, Socrates?~SOCRATES: I will tell you;
 791 Text |              did that happen, Socrates?~SOCRATES: I will tell you; the kingly
 792 Text |                  and what came of that?~SOCRATES: To this royal or political
 793 Text |                 And were you not right, Socrates?~SOCRATES: You shall judge,
 794 Text |                you not right, Socrates?~SOCRATES: You shall judge, Crito,
 795 Text |             same?~CRITO: Yes, I should.~SOCRATES: And what would you say
 796 Text |                health?~CRITO: I should.~SOCRATES: And what of your own art
 797 Text |               of the earth?~CRITO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And what does the kingly
 798 Text |                 CRITO: Indeed I am not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: No more were
 799 Text |              Indeed I am not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: No more were we, Crito.
 800 Text |               useful.~CRITO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And surely it ought to
 801 Text |                 good?~CRITO: Certainly, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And Cleinias
 802 Text |             CRITO: Certainly, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And Cleinias and I had
 803 Text |               was what you were saying.~SOCRATES: All the other results of
 804 Text |             report of the conversation.~SOCRATES: And does the kingly art
 805 Text |               and good?~CRITO: Why not, Socrates?~SOCRATES: What, all men,
 806 Text |               CRITO: Why not, Socrates?~SOCRATES: What, all men, and in every
 807 Text |               them?~CRITO: I think not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But then what
 808 Text |                  I think not, Socrates.~SOCRATES: But then what is this knowledge,
 809 Text |              good?~CRITO: By all means.~SOCRATES: And in what will they be
 810 Text |               happiness.~CRITO: Indeed, Socrates, you do appear to have got
 811 Text |                into a great perplexity.~SOCRATES: Thereupon, Crito, seeing
 812 Text |                show you this knowledge?~SOCRATES: Yes, indeed; he proceeded
 813 Text |               effect: Would you rather, Socrates, said he, that I should
 814 Text |                  Out of your own mouth, Socrates, you are convicted, he said.~
 815 Text |             know others?~Certainly not, Socrates, said Dionysodorus.~What
 816 Text |              said: You are incredulous, Socrates.~Yes, I said, and I might
 817 Text |                  Do you know something, Socrates, or nothing?~Something,
 818 Text |              soul?~Are you not ashamed, Socrates, of asking a question when
 819 Text |                 with this.~There again, Socrates, he said, the addition is
 820 Text |            learn.~You are running away, Socrates, said Dionysodorus, and
 821 Text |               is not a father; and you, Socrates, are without a father.~Ctesippus,
 822 Text |              and beautiful things?~Why, Socrates, said Dionysodorus, did
 823 Text |                  And would you be able, Socrates, to recognize this wisdom
 824 Text |                great, he said: Tell me, Socrates, have you an ancestral Zeus?
 825 Text |             money-making.~CRITO: Truly, Socrates, though I am curious and
 826 Text |                 censure of the pursuit, Socrates, whether coming from him
 827 Text |           opinion, he was in the right.~SOCRATES: O Crito, they are marvellous
 828 Text |            composes wonderful speeches.~SOCRATES: Now I understand, Crito;
 829 Text |                What do you say of them, Socrates? There is certainly something
 830 Text |               in that notion of theirs.~SOCRATES: Yes, Crito, there is more
 831 Text |                  I have often told you, Socrates, that I am in a constant
 832 Text |              youth to study philosophy.~SOCRATES: Dear Crito, do you not
 833 Text |               they are, in my judgment.~SOCRATES: Well, and do you not see
 834 Text |              indeed, that is very true.~SOCRATES: And will you on this account
 835 Text |                would not be reasonable, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Do you then be
 836 Text |                be reasonable, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Do you then be reasonable,


Euthyphro
     Part
 837 Intro|                  Anytus had parted from Socrates with the significant words: ‘
 838 Intro|              than to do them good;’ and Socrates was anticipating another
 839 Intro|             with him. In the Euthyphro, Socrates is awaiting his trial for
 840 Intro|              very matter touching which Socrates is accused. An incident
 841 Intro|          discussion.~This Euthyphro and Socrates are represented as meeting
 842 Intro|                 legal business in hand. Socrates is defendant in a suit for
 843 Intro|              brings against his father. Socrates is confident that before
 844 Intro|           Cronos, and Cronos to Uranus.~Socrates has a dislike to these tales
 845 Intro|              Euthyphro will gladly tell Socrates some more of them. But Socrates
 846 Intro|         Socrates some more of them. But Socrates would like first of all
 847 Intro|                a murderer. Yes, rejoins Socrates, when they know him to be
 848 Intro|             Waiving this last, however, Socrates proposes to amend the definition,
 849 Intro|               To this Euthyphro agrees.~Socrates proceeds to analyze the
 850 Intro|               Daedalus, the ancestor of Socrates, who has communicated his
 851 Intro|                 art to his descendants.~Socrates, who is desirous of stimulating
 852 Intro|        sacrifices. In other words, says Socrates, piety is ‘a science of
 853 Intro|                 been already disproved.~Socrates, although weary of the subterfuges
 854 Intro|              hurry and cannot stay. And Socrates’ last hope of knowing the
 855 Intro|              them have been overthrown, Socrates does not offer any definition
 856 Intro|                 whose ‘prancing steeds’ Socrates in the Cratylus is carried
 857 Intro|              man, and he is friendly to Socrates, whose familiar sign he
 858 Intro|             religion in order to injure Socrates; at the same time he is
 859 Intro|                notion of religion which Socrates vainly endeavours to elicit
 860 Intro|               the Greeks in the time of Socrates, were equally serious in
 861 Intro|                are the very tales which Socrates cannot abide; and his dislike
 862 Intro|            answer to the question, ‘Why Socrates was put to death,’ suggested
 863 Intro|              the course of the argument Socrates remarks that the controversial
 864 Intro|                 subtleties of dialectic Socrates is working his way into
 865 Intro|              part of justice.’ Thus far Socrates has proceeded in placing
 866 Intro|                 further interrogated by Socrates as to the nature of this ‘
 867 Intro|               and asking, and the like. Socrates points out the anthropomorphism
 868 Intro|                only; (3) the defence of Socrates.~The subtle connection with
 869 Intro|                 this little work to aid Socrates at the time of his trial
 870 Text |                PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Euthyphro.~SCENE: The Porch
 871 Text |               have you left the Lyceum, Socrates? and what are you doing
 872 Text |           before the King, like myself?~SOCRATES: Not in a suit, Euthyphro;
 873 Text |              the prosecutor of another.~SOCRATES: Certainly not.~EUTHYPHRO:
 874 Text |               has been prosecuting you?~SOCRATES: Yes.~EUTHYPHRO: And who
 875 Text |               EUTHYPHRO: And who is he?~SOCRATES: A young man who is little
 876 Text |                  I do not remember him, Socrates. But what is the charge
 877 Text |            which he brings against you?~SOCRATES: What is the charge? Well,
 878 Text |                 may; but I rather fear, Socrates, that the opposite will
 879 Text |             that you corrupt the young?~SOCRATES: He brings a wonderful accusation
 880 Text |                EUTHYPHRO: I understand, Socrates; he means to attack you
 881 Text |                be brave and go at them.~SOCRATES: Their laughter, friend
 882 Text |               their temper in this way.~SOCRATES: I dare say not, for you
 883 Text |             affair will end in nothing, Socrates, and that you will win your
 884 Text |                that I shall win my own.~SOCRATES: And what is your suit,
 885 Text |            EUTHYPHRO: I am the pursuer.~SOCRATES: Of whom?~EUTHYPHRO: You
 886 Text |                 me mad when I tell you.~SOCRATES: Why, has the fugitive wings?~
 887 Text |           volatile at his time of life.~SOCRATES: Who is he?~EUTHYPHRO: My
 888 Text |               he?~EUTHYPHRO: My father.~SOCRATES: Your father! my good man?~
 889 Text |               good man?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And of what is he accused?~
 890 Text |          accused?~EUTHYPHRO: Of murder, Socrates.~SOCRATES: By the powers,
 891 Text |         EUTHYPHRO: Of murder, Socrates.~SOCRATES: By the powers, Euthyphro!
 892 Text |              action.~EUTHYPHRO: Indeed, Socrates, he must.~SOCRATES: I suppose
 893 Text |              Indeed, Socrates, he must.~SOCRATES: I suppose that the man
 894 Text |                 EUTHYPHRO: I am amused, Socrates, at your making a distinction
 895 Text |       prosecutes a father. Which shows, Socrates, how little they know what
 896 Text |                about piety and impiety.~SOCRATES: Good heavens, Euthyphro!
 897 Text |                which distinguishes him, Socrates, from other men, is his
 898 Text |                 be good for without it?~SOCRATES: Rare friend! I think that
 899 Text |                 EUTHYPHRO: Yes, indeed, Socrates; and if he attempts to indict
 900 Text |               to say to him than to me.~SOCRATES: And I, my dear friend,
 901 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: To be sure, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And what is piety,
 902 Text |        EUTHYPHRO: To be sure, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And what is piety, and
 903 Text |                 And please to consider, Socrates, what a notable proof I
 904 Text |                and when I am concerned.~SOCRATES: May not this be the reason,
 905 Text |               are true.~EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates; and things more wonderful
 906 Text |              the world is in ignorance.~SOCRATES: And do you really believe
 907 Text |              Euthyphro?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates; and, as I was saying, I
 908 Text |            which would quite amaze you.~SOCRATES: I dare say; and you shall
 909 Text |               And what I said was true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: No doubt, Euthyphro;
 910 Text |                said was true, Socrates.~SOCRATES: No doubt, Euthyphro; but
 911 Text |             acts?~EUTHYPHRO: There are.~SOCRATES: Remember that I did not
 912 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: I remember.~SOCRATES: Tell me what is the nature
 913 Text |             will tell you, if you like.~SOCRATES: I should very much like.~
 914 Text |              which is not dear to them.~SOCRATES: Very good, Euthyphro; you
 915 Text |            words.~EUTHYPHRO: Of course.~SOCRATES: Come, then, and let us
 916 Text |                said?~EUTHYPHRO: It was.~SOCRATES: And well said?~EUTHYPHRO:
 917 Text |              well said?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates, I thought so; it was certainly
 918 Text |                  it was certainly said.~SOCRATES: And further, Euthyphro,
 919 Text |                Yes, that was also said.~SOCRATES: And what sort of difference
 920 Text |                 a sum?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: Or suppose that we differ
 921 Text |        measuring?~EUTHYPHRO: Very true.~SOCRATES: And we end a controversy
 922 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: To be sure.~SOCRATES: But what differences are
 923 Text |                 Alcib.)~EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates, the nature of the differences
 924 Text |                is such as you describe.~SOCRATES: And the quarrels of the
 925 Text |          EUTHYPHRO: Certainly they are.~SOCRATES: They have differences of
 926 Text |         EUTHYPHRO: You are quite right.~SOCRATES: Does not every man love
 927 Text |             them?~EUTHYPHRO: Very true.~SOCRATES: But, as you say, people
 928 Text |             them.~EUTHYPHRO: Very true.~SOCRATES: Then the same things are
 929 Text |               to them?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: And upon this view the
 930 Text |         EUTHYPHRO: So I should suppose.~SOCRATES: Then, my friend, I remark
 931 Text |               EUTHYPHRO: But I believe, Socrates, that all the gods would
 932 Text |       difference of opinion about that.~SOCRATES: Well, but speaking of men,
 933 Text |               say in their own defence.~SOCRATES: But do they admit their
 934 Text |             EUTHYPHRO: No; they do not.~SOCRATES: Then there are some things
 935 Text |               they not?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Then they do not argue
 936 Text |              and when?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: And the gods are in the
 937 Text |                EUTHYPHRO: That is true, Socrates, in the main.~SOCRATES:
 938 Text |                  Socrates, in the main.~SOCRATES: But they join issue about
 939 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: Quite true.~SOCRATES: Well then, my dear friend
 940 Text |               very clear indeed to you.~SOCRATES: I understand; you mean
 941 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: Yes indeed, Socrates; at least if they will listen
 942 Text |                 they will listen to me.~SOCRATES: But they will be sure to
 943 Text |            impiety?~EUTHYPHRO: Why not, Socrates?~SOCRATES: Why not! certainly,
 944 Text |           EUTHYPHRO: Why not, Socrates?~SOCRATES: Why not! certainly, as
 945 Text |                 they all hate, impious.~SOCRATES: Ought we to enquire into
 946 Text |              stand the test of enquiry.~SOCRATES: We shall know better, my
 947 Text |                understand your meaning, Socrates.~SOCRATES: I will endeavour
 948 Text |                 your meaning, Socrates.~SOCRATES: I will endeavour to explain:
 949 Text |                think that I understand.~SOCRATES: And is not that which is
 950 Text |            loves?~EUTHYPHRO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Well; and now tell me,
 951 Text |                 No; that is the reason.~SOCRATES: And the same is true of
 952 Text |               is seen?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: And a thing is not seen
 953 Text |              not agree?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Is not that which is loved
 954 Text |              suffering?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And the same holds as in
 955 Text |            state.~EUTHYPHRO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: And what do you say of
 956 Text |               the gods?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Because it is pious or
 957 Text |                 No, that is the reason.~SOCRATES: It is loved because it
 958 Text |               is loved?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And that which is dear
 959 Text |             them?~EUTHYPHRO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: Then that which is dear
 960 Text |             EUTHYPHRO: How do you mean, Socrates?~SOCRATES: I mean to say
 961 Text |              How do you mean, Socrates?~SOCRATES: I mean to say that the
 962 Text |               is loved.~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: But that which is dear
 963 Text |               to them.~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: But, friend Euthyphro,
 964 Text |        EUTHYPHRO: I really do not know, Socrates, how to express what I mean.
 965 Text |            round and walk away from us.~SOCRATES: Your words, Euthyphro,
 966 Text |               the move.~EUTHYPHRO: Nay, Socrates, I shall still say that
 967 Text |               as far as I am concerned.~SOCRATES: Then I must be a greater
 968 Text |       necessarily just?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And is, then, all which
 969 Text |                I do not understand you, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And yet I know
 970 Text |               understand you, Socrates.~SOCRATES: And yet I know that you
 971 Text |                EUTHYPHRO: By all means.~SOCRATES: I should not say that where
 972 Text |             fear.~EUTHYPHRO: Very true.~SOCRATES: But where reverence is,
 973 Text |        reputation.~EUTHYPHRO: No doubt.~SOCRATES: Then we are wrong in saying
 974 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: Quite well.~SOCRATES: That was the sort of question
 975 Text |               that you are quite right.~SOCRATES: Then, if piety is a part
 976 Text |          EUTHYPHRO: Yes, I quite agree.~SOCRATES: In like manner, I want
 977 Text |           EUTHYPHRO: Piety or holiness, Socrates, appears to me to be that
 978 Text |           justice which attends to men.~SOCRATES: That is good, Euthyphro;
 979 Text |               so?~EUTHYPHRO: Certainly.~SOCRATES: I should suppose that the
 980 Text |                 horses?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: Nor is every one qualified
 981 Text |              huntsman?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: And I should also conceive
 982 Text |                to dogs?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: As the art of the oxherd
 983 Text |             oxen?~EUTHYPHRO: Very true.~SOCRATES: In like manner holiness
 984 Text |              Euthyphro?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And is not attention always
 985 Text |              they not?~EUTHYPHRO: True.~SOCRATES: As the dogs are benefited
 986 Text |          Certainly, not for their hurt.~SOCRATES: But for their good?~EUTHYPHRO:
 987 Text |             good?~EUTHYPHRO: Of course.~SOCRATES: And does piety or holiness,
 988 Text |             certainly not what I meant.~SOCRATES: And I, Euthyphro, never
 989 Text |           EUTHYPHRO: You do me justice, Socrates; that is not the sort of
 990 Text |                 attention which I mean.~SOCRATES: Good: but I must still
 991 Text |                  EUTHYPHRO: It is such, Socrates, as servants show to their
 992 Text |         servants show to their masters.~SOCRATES: I understand—a sort of
 993 Text |               gods.~EUTHYPHRO: Exactly.~SOCRATES: Medicine is also a sort
 994 Text |            health?~EUTHYPHRO: I should.~SOCRATES: Again, there is an art
 995 Text |                 result?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes, Socrates, with a view to the building
 996 Text |                 the building of a ship.~SOCRATES: As there is an art which
 997 Text |                a house?~EUTHYPHRO: Yes.~SOCRATES: And now tell me, my good
 998 Text |                  And I speak the truth, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Tell me then,
 999 Text |              speak the truth, Socrates.~SOCRATES: Tell me then, oh tell me—
1000 Text |               EUTHYPHRO: Many and fair, Socrates, are the works which they